This episode features Angie Klein, IAM Business Technology Manager at Federated Insurance.Angie brings over a decade of experience spanning systems development and identity security leadership, holding CISSP, CIDPRO, and CISM certifications and working hands-on with CyberArk, SailPoint IDN, and Active Directory in a regulated environment.In this episode, Angie dives into the organizational and cultural work that most identity programs skip. She shares why identity deserves its own program, how to apply OCM to bring resistant stakeholders on board, and why governance must come first. Angie's core argument is that if identity security creates too much friction, people will route around it, and that's where the real risk lives.This episode makes the case that the hardest part of identity security isn't the technology, it's getting people to trust it enough to stop working around it.Guest Bio As the IAM Business Technology Manager at Federated Insurance, Angie is dedicated to advancing our Identity and Access Management program and the industry as a whole. With over 10 years of experience and currently leading a team of Security Engineers and Identity and Access Analysts, Angie is passionate about IAM and love to see "ah ha" moments when colleagues understand that security is everyone's job.Angie bring over a decade of experience as a Systems Developer, providing extensive technical expertise in the Identity Security domain. I hold certifications, including CISSP, CIDPRO, and CISM. Additionally, she has experience working in the insurance industry and am skilled in CyberArk, Active Directory, SailPoint IDN, Analytical Skills, Project Management, and Public Speaking.Guest Quote "Identity security is ultimately about trust. People have to trust that you are doing the things that will help them do their job securely and not stop them from doing their job."Time stamps 01:45 Meet Angie Klein: Expert IAM Practitioner 01:22 Why Identity Needs Its Own Program 04:30 Why Identity Programs Stall 07:27 Organizational Change Management (OCM) Explained 12:51 OCM in Action 17:08 How to Gain Buy-In for an Identity Security Program 25:05 First Steps for Standing Up a Program 30:22 The Core Pillars of Identity Security 35:00 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsSponsor The HIP Podcast is brought to you by Semperis, the leader in identity-driven cyber resilience for the hybrid enterprise. Trusted by the world’s leading businesses, Semperis protects critical Active Directory and Entra ID environments from cyberattacks, ensuring rapid recovery and business continuity when every second counts. Visit semperis.com to learn more.Links Connect with Angie on LinkedInConnect with Sean on LinkedInDon't miss future episodesLearn more about Semperis

Jeff and Jim welcome back Henrique Teixeira, SVP of Strategy at Saviynt, for his fourth appearance on the podcast. The episode opens with Jim's firsthand experience building an AI agent for a work project and discovering in real time how identity management challenges surface in the agentic era. After conference updates on EIC in Berlin and Identiverse in Las Vegas, Henrique unpacks the crowded terminology around AI agent governance, from Gartner's agent management platforms to UADP, the Unified Agentic Defense Platform. He proposes a three-pillar framework for managing AI and non-human identities: discovery, identity lifecycle and governance, and runtime access management, with guidance on where to start depending on whether your organization is greenfield or legacy-heavy. The conversation then examines how AI is reshaping the analyst business model, what makes information sources trustworthy, and how proprietary inquiry data forms the real competitive moat for firms like Gartner and Forrester. The episode closes with a wide-ranging discussion on AI's risk to shared cultural experiences, hyper-personalized entertainment, and the ethics of licensing your digital identity in the afterlife.Connect with Henrique: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bernardes/Connect with us on LinkedIn:Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/Visit the show on the web at http://idacpodcast.com00:00:00 Intro00:00:55 Jim's AI Agent Experiment and Identity Lessons00:06:04 Conference News: EIC and Identiverse00:07:22 Identity Beer Community Events00:08:40 Introducing Henrique Teixeira00:12:00 AI Control Plane: Competing Terminologies00:17:36 Three Pillars of AI Agent Identity Management00:18:46 Why Visibility Matters More for NHI00:20:00 Ownership, Accountability, and Humans at the Control Plane00:24:26 Industry Maturity and the Gaps That Remain00:25:41 Where to Start: Governance-First vs. Visibility-First00:29:52 AI's Impact on the Analyst Profession00:34:57 What Analyst Firms Have That AI Cannot Replace00:39:04 Trust, Boutique Analysts, and Repeatability00:44:34 Proprietary AI Chatbots and Gated Intelligence00:49:30 IP Rights and the Legal Gray Zone of AI Training00:52:14 AI and the Erosion of Shared Cultural Experience00:58:00 AI Music, Personalized Entertainment, and the Future of Art01:03:47 Digital Afterlife, Voice Clones, and AI Personas01:08:18 Wrap-Up and ClosingKeywords: IDAC, Identity at the Center, Jeff Steadman, Jim McDonald, Henrique Teixeira, Saviynt, AI identity control plane, non-human identities, NHI, agentic AI, AI agents, AI governance, identity lifecycle, access management, discovery, agent management platform, UADP, IAM, Gartner, analyst firms, AI and culture, digital identity, identity security, EIC, Identiverse, identity beer

This episode is made possible by GitGuardian. Jeff speaks with Dwayne McDaniel, Principal Developer Advocate at GitGuardian, about secrets sprawl, non-human identity governance, and the findings of the State of Secret Sprawl 2026 report. With 28.6 million secrets leaked to public GitHub in 2025 - a 34% year-over-year increase - they explore why hardcoded credentials persist, how agentic AI tools are making the problem worse, and what IAM practitioners can do to start addressing machine identity governance. Topics include GitGuardian's Good Samaritan notification program, the growing NHI inventory challenge, SPIFFE and SPIRE as a path to zero standing privilege, and data showing Claude Code co-authored commits are more than twice as likely to contain leaked secrets. Visit gitguardian.com/lps/idac to learn more.Connect with Dwayne: https://www.linkedin.com/in/dwaynemcdaniel/Dwayne's website: https://dwayne-mcdaniel.com/Learn more about GitGuardian: https://www.gitguardian.com/lps/idacGitGuardian Good Samaritan Program (free) - https://www.gitguardian.com/good-samaritanThe State of Secrets Sprawl 2026: https://www.gitguardian.com/state-of-secrets-sprawl-report-2026SPIFFE Book: https://spiffe.io/book/Connect with us on LinkedIn:Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/Visit the show on the web at http://idacpodcast.comTIMESTAMPS:00:00 Introduction and sponsor welcome00:48 Dwayne's background and path to developer advocacy04:11 Surprises from entering the identity and security space06:29 What a principal developer advocate actually does09:32 Why secrets became Dwayne's focus area14:10 GitGuardian: overview and mission19:36 Where secrets commonly leak across the SDLC22:17 The Good Samaritan notification program explained28:00 Why 70% of leaked secrets from 2022 were still valid in 202533:54 State of Secret Sprawl 2026: the year software changed40:39 AI coding tools, Claude Code, and secrets leakage data47:28 Practical questions for IAM practitioners to start asking52:24 Zero standing privilege and the case for SPIFFE/SPIRE01:00:00 Resources: the SPIFFE book, WIMSE, and AWS STS01:02:51 Hot sauce, the Cubs, and closing thoughtsKEYWORDS:secrets sprawl, hardcoded secrets, non-human identity, NHI governance, GitGuardian, SPIFFE, SPIRE, workload identity, DevSecOps, agentic AI, Claude Code, zero standing privilege, supply chain security, credential abuse, identity and access management, IAM, IDAC, Identity at the Center, Jeff Steadman, Jim McDonald, Dwayne McDaniel

Recorded live as part of the Identity Management Day 2026 streaming program, Jeff and Jim mark their fifth IMD episode. Introduced by Jeff Reich from the Identity Defined Security Alliance, they reflect on how the IAM industry has evolved since their first IMD episode in 2021 and grade overall progress a C. Topics include what has genuinely improved (passkeys, MFA adoption, broader awareness), what hasn't (compliance fatigue, security theater, persistent credential theft), the exploding challenge of non-human identity governance, whether AI will eventually need to certify other AI, and how AI-powered phishing and deep fakes are raising the bar for identity verification. The episode wraps with chat-submitted IAM bumper stickers.Identity Management Day 2026: https://www.idsalliance.org/event/identity-management-day-2026/Connect with us on LinkedIn:Jim McDonald: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jimmcdonaldpmp/Jeff Steadman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffsteadman/Visit the show on the web at http://idacpodcast.comCHAPTERS0:00 - Jeff Reich intro from the IMD stream2:00 - Identity Management Day 2026 kicks off3:30 - Five years of IMD: a look back at episode 887:00 - Does IMD move the needle?9:30 - Who is Identity Management Day actually for?12:00 - What has improved in IAM over five years16:00 - What hasn't improved: compliance fatigue and security theater18:30 - Grading the IAM industry21:00 - NHI governance: visibility and accountability26:00 - Can AI certify AI? Agentic identity governance29:00 - AI-powered phishing and the evolving threat landscape32:00 - Deep fakes and the identity verification challenge36:00 - Lighter note: IAM bumper stickersKEYWORDSidentity management day, identity management day 2026, NHI, non-human identity, agentic AI, phishing, deep fakes, IGA, passkeys, MFA, IAM, identity governance, access management, cybersecurity, credential theft, security awareness, IDAC, Identity at the Center, Jeff Steadman, Jim McDonald

This episode features Sarah Cecchetti, Director of Product Management at Semperis.A veteran identity executive, Sarah co-founded IDPro and co-authored NIST SP 800-63-3C Digital Identity Guidelines. She previously led Amazon Cognito as Head of Product at AWS, where she also open-sourced Cedar, the policy language at the center of this conversation.In this episode, Sarah presents her Bsides Seattle talk "Identity Crisis: IAM's Wild Ride in the AI Jungle" on why the assumptions that shaped modern identity have been overturned by the pace of agentic AI. She covers where authentication and authorization standards currently fall short for non-human identities and walks through the emerging frameworks the industry is building to fill that gap.This episode makes the case that natural language safety instructions are not a substitute for provable, external guardrails.Guest Bio Sarah Cecchetti is a seasoned technology executive driving product management at Semperis. At AWS, she led Amazon Cognito to triple-digit growth as Head of Product and led the open-sourcing of Cedar, a new access management language. She co-founded IDPro and co-authored NIST SP 800-63-3C Digital Identity Guidelines. Sarah has designed secure identity systems for corporate clients as well as US and Canadian governments and is recognized as a top identity professional by Okta Ventures and OWI. She’s a keynote speaker at global identity conferences like Identiverse and Authenticate.Guest Quote  “[The] average enterprise has 250,000 non-human identities, and 97% of those have excessive privilege. And 68% of organizations lack AI identity controls...The concept of excessive privilege has almost been accepted by the industry at this point. That's just the way it's done.”Time stamps 01:45 Meet Sarah Cecchetti: Seasoned Identity Executive 02:36 Sarah’s Bsides Seattle Talk: Identity Crisis: IAM's Wild Ride in the AI Jungle 04:19 How Deepfakes Broke Biometrics 06:37 The Scale of Non-Human Identities 09:34 How NHIs Differ from Human Identities 10:38 Why FIDO Doesn't Work for AI Agents 12:19 Introducing SPIFFE and Workload Identity 15:45 How SPIFFE Works in Practice 17:34 Where AI Protocols Are Falling Short 21:12 The Problem with OAuth Client Credentials 23:18 Dynamic Registration and Database Sprawl 24:38 Client ID Metadata Documents Explained 28:43 Authentication Standards: Who Wins the Client ID Field? 30:21 Cedar: Deterministic Authorization for AI Agents 33:58 Clawdrey Hepburn: Sarah's AI Agent in Practice 40:09 Conclusion and Final ThoughtsSponsor The HIP Podcast is brought to you by Semperis, the leader in identity-driven cyber resilience for the hybrid enterprise. Trusted by the world’s leading businesses, Semperis protects critical Active Directory and Entra ID environments from cyberattacks, ensuring rapid recovery and business continuity when every second counts. Visit semperis.com to learn more.LinksOAuth Client ID Metadata DocumentConnect with Sarah on LinkedInConnect with Sean on LinkedInDon't miss future episodesLearn more about Semperis